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	<title>Comments on: Choosing Blasphemy?</title>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://unfoldingneurons.com/2007/choosing-blasphemy#comment-1160</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I really missing the point Cyde?  You're right, from the perspective of the unbeliever it's not blasphemy.  I'm not contradicting that - but the point is that it is a label they've chosen for this site to make that point exactly.  I'm not criticizing other religions here I'm merely drawing attention to this website that &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; criticizing the Christian belief in hell and asking some questions out of a wonder for why someone would go to such lengths to make their point.

Do I believe that some other religions are crazy?  Sure do - c'mon worshipping a cow?  But if someone chooses to worship (or not worship anything) that's their choice - it doesn't mean I'm going to be silent about how crazy I think that is (just as I'd expect that others won't be silent about how crazy they think I am for believing what I do...)

As for my "surprise" that there are people risking hell I'm not sure how that is "missing the point"?  Again, my surprise has led to ask what has happened to these individuals who are posting on this site that is singling out the Christian faith to cause them to act in this way? Yes, at is base form, atheism is disbelief in a "god" period.  I'm not disputing that but, you've got to agree that for the most part, the public demonstration of atheism tends to speak more against the Christian faith than any other faith.  Care to point me to a similar site risking the wrath of the Islam faith by doing something similar?  Again you say I'm missing the point...
&lt;blockquote&gt;...by focusing too much on our professed disbelief in one of the thousands of them that just so happens to be the one you believe in, you are missing the point&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I fail to see how that relates to what this blog post is about?  I'm merely addressing how some atheists ARE focusing on the faith that I have AND the reality that when atheists do get public about their "religion" they tend to have more to say against Christianity than the many other religions/faiths they could speak against.  
As for applying my argument to other religions - sure other religions have varying requirements for "escaping" their version of "hell".  But Christianity is the only religion/faith that basically says it's impossible for anyone to "earn" their way to paradise/heaven.  It is the only religion/faith in which the possibility of getting to heaven is by the actions of the God who wants us with Him.  Actions that are incomprehensible when you think that God didn't have to do what He did (die on a cross, subject to all the humility man heaped on Him).  

Yes, I do believe Christianity is the only true faith and the others are false.  Jesus Christ himself said, "I am &lt;u&gt;the&lt;/u&gt; way, the truth, and the life, no one can come to the father except through me".  If I believe the words of Christ then there is no room for me to believe otherwise. 

I do understand that atheists think Christianity is false along with all other faith systems that believe in a god.  The purpose of my article though, is to simply draw attention to the choice by some to be so vocal about their disbelief in Christianity and choosing such a dramatic statement.  The thing about hell and heaven is that no-one will really know the truth of until after we die.  From the perspective of those participating in this challenge they may not think they are risking much, from my perspective of course I think they are risking far too much.  Pascal's wager simply illustrates that there's nothing to lose by believing in Christ and you're wrong but there's everything to lose if you don't believe in Christ and you're wrong.  Those who are posting those videos are putting the Pascal wager to the ultimate test - results that won't be known until it's too late (or not...depending on your belief system).

By the way, thanks for commenting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I really missing the point Cyde?  You&#8217;re right, from the perspective of the unbeliever it&#8217;s not blasphemy.  I&#8217;m not contradicting that - but the point is that it is a label they&#8217;ve chosen for this site to make that point exactly.  I&#8217;m not criticizing other religions here I&#8217;m merely drawing attention to this website that <em>is</em> criticizing the Christian belief in hell and asking some questions out of a wonder for why someone would go to such lengths to make their point.</p>
<p>Do I believe that some other religions are crazy?  Sure do - c&#8217;mon worshipping a cow?  But if someone chooses to worship (or not worship anything) that&#8217;s their choice - it doesn&#8217;t mean I&#8217;m going to be silent about how crazy I think that is (just as I&#8217;d expect that others won&#8217;t be silent about how crazy they think I am for believing what I do&#8230;)</p>
<p>As for my &#8220;surprise&#8221; that there are people risking hell I&#8217;m not sure how that is &#8220;missing the point&#8221;?  Again, my surprise has led to ask what has happened to these individuals who are posting on this site that is singling out the Christian faith to cause them to act in this way? Yes, at is base form, atheism is disbelief in a &#8220;god&#8221; period.  I&#8217;m not disputing that but, you&#8217;ve got to agree that for the most part, the public demonstration of atheism tends to speak more against the Christian faith than any other faith.  Care to point me to a similar site risking the wrath of the Islam faith by doing something similar?  Again you say I&#8217;m missing the point&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;by focusing too much on our professed disbelief in one of the thousands of them that just so happens to be the one you believe in, you are missing the point</p></blockquote>
<p>I fail to see how that relates to what this blog post is about?  I&#8217;m merely addressing how some atheists ARE focusing on the faith that I have AND the reality that when atheists do get public about their &#8220;religion&#8221; they tend to have more to say against Christianity than the many other religions/faiths they could speak against.<br />
As for applying my argument to other religions - sure other religions have varying requirements for &#8220;escaping&#8221; their version of &#8220;hell&#8221;.  But Christianity is the only religion/faith that basically says it&#8217;s impossible for anyone to &#8220;earn&#8221; their way to paradise/heaven.  It is the only religion/faith in which the possibility of getting to heaven is by the actions of the God who wants us with Him.  Actions that are incomprehensible when you think that God didn&#8217;t have to do what He did (die on a cross, subject to all the humility man heaped on Him).  </p>
<p>Yes, I do believe Christianity is the only true faith and the others are false.  Jesus Christ himself said, &#8220;I am <u>the</u> way, the truth, and the life, no one can come to the father except through me&#8221;.  If I believe the words of Christ then there is no room for me to believe otherwise. </p>
<p>I do understand that atheists think Christianity is false along with all other faith systems that believe in a god.  The purpose of my article though, is to simply draw attention to the choice by some to be so vocal about their disbelief in Christianity and choosing such a dramatic statement.  The thing about hell and heaven is that no-one will really know the truth of until after we die.  From the perspective of those participating in this challenge they may not think they are risking much, from my perspective of course I think they are risking far too much.  Pascal&#8217;s wager simply illustrates that there&#8217;s nothing to lose by believing in Christ and you&#8217;re wrong but there&#8217;s everything to lose if you don&#8217;t believe in Christ and you&#8217;re wrong.  Those who are posting those videos are putting the Pascal wager to the ultimate test - results that won&#8217;t be known until it&#8217;s too late (or not&#8230;depending on your belief system).</p>
<p>By the way, thanks for commenting.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyde Weys</title>
		<link>http://unfoldingneurons.com/2007/choosing-blasphemy#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyde Weys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 16:40:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you're missing the point; it's not blasphemy if you don't believe.  It's no different than you criticizing religions you don't believe in (which I'm sure you've done; c'mon, Thor, Vishnu, all of that stuff is crazy, right?).  And again, you miss the point when you profess surprise that there are "actually people willing to risk an eternity in hell" - that's just another form of Pascal's wager.

You're still thinking too much from a Christian-centric point of view (which, admittedly, may be hard for you to break out of).  But atheists aren't "Anti-Christians" - we're disbelievers in all religions, and by focusing too much on our professed disbelief in one of the thousands of them that just so happens to be the one you believe in, you are missing the point.  Is it no less blasphemy when I display a picture of Muhammed, or when I allow a woman to wear clothing that leaves her face uncovered?  Applying your argument, why should I risk going to hell over these things?  Most of the everyday things you do go against the teachings of at least several dozen religions - so why are you risking going to hell?  Oh, maybe is it because you think that Christianity is the only true one, and the others are false?  Please do understand our actions if we simply happen to think that one more religion is false than you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re missing the point; it&#8217;s not blasphemy if you don&#8217;t believe.  It&#8217;s no different than you criticizing religions you don&#8217;t believe in (which I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;ve done; c&#8217;mon, Thor, Vishnu, all of that stuff is crazy, right?).  And again, you miss the point when you profess surprise that there are &#8220;actually people willing to risk an eternity in hell&#8221; - that&#8217;s just another form of Pascal&#8217;s wager.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re still thinking too much from a Christian-centric point of view (which, admittedly, may be hard for you to break out of).  But atheists aren&#8217;t &#8220;Anti-Christians&#8221; - we&#8217;re disbelievers in all religions, and by focusing too much on our professed disbelief in one of the thousands of them that just so happens to be the one you believe in, you are missing the point.  Is it no less blasphemy when I display a picture of Muhammed, or when I allow a woman to wear clothing that leaves her face uncovered?  Applying your argument, why should I risk going to hell over these things?  Most of the everyday things you do go against the teachings of at least several dozen religions - so why are you risking going to hell?  Oh, maybe is it because you think that Christianity is the only true one, and the others are false?  Please do understand our actions if we simply happen to think that one more religion is false than you do.</p>
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		<title>By: Darren</title>
		<link>http://unfoldingneurons.com/2007/choosing-blasphemy#comment-116</link>
		<dc:creator>Darren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 14:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing your blog address here Frank.  I visited your site - it's good seeing that there is someone doing something proactive to address the blasphemy challenge.  I especially appreciated all the various links you provide to other sources for study.  Great work!  Keep it up!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing your blog address here Frank.  I visited your site - it&#8217;s good seeing that there is someone doing something proactive to address the blasphemy challenge.  I especially appreciated all the various links you provide to other sources for study.  Great work!  Keep it up!</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Walton</title>
		<link>http://unfoldingneurons.com/2007/choosing-blasphemy#comment-115</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Walton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2007 05:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For your interest I have a blog against the blasphemy challenge &lt;a href="http://blasphemychallenge.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;here.&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For your interest I have a blog against the blasphemy challenge <a href="http://blasphemychallenge.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">here.</a></p>
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